At 2024’s FreedomFest, Matt Kibbe catches up with John Mackey, the serial entrepreneur who founded Whole Foods and is now launching the new wellness company Love.Life. Mackey wants to empower individuals to take control of their own health in a way that is increasingly difficult in the American health care system. Despite these challenges, Mackey remains a long-term optimist about the future of liberty, pointing to the decentralized wisdom that spontaneously emerges from creative people working and cooperating to solve big problems. It’s easy to be gloomy about the country’s direction given the events of the last few years, but as long as there are entrepreneurs like Mackey building new systems, there is plenty of reason for hope.
Ep 291 | Embrace the Chaos of Entrepreneurship | Guest: John Mackey
Aug 07, 2024

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Kibbe on Liberty is a weekly podcast with libertarian author and economist, Matt Kibbe. Kibbe believes that honest conversations, driven by intellectual curiosity and mutual respect, can ignite a new revolution of free thinking and a willingness to question the official narrative. That means talking, and listening, to a wide variety of people outside the echo chamber of officially sanctioned experts.
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Kibbe on Liberty is a weekly podcast with libertarian author and economist, Matt Kibbe. Kibbe believes that honest conversations, driven by intellectual curiosity and mutual respect, can ignite a new revolution of free thinking and a willingness to question the official narrative. That means talking, and listening, to a wide variety of people outside the echo chamber of officially sanctioned experts.
Kibbe on Liberty's guests include politicians, economists, musicians, comedians, writers, radio personalities, activists, journalists, and even magicians—with topics of conversation ranging from current affairs to obscure philosophy, from craft beer to the Grateful Dead. Cold one in hand, settle in for the next brain-stimulating hour of Kibbe on Liberty.
As the president of Free the People, Kibbe has decades of experience in the libertarian political sphere. He is the author of three books, including Don’t Hurt People and Don’t Take Their Stuff, a #2 NY Times Best Seller. Kibbe is a fanatical DeadHead, drinker of great whisky, and collector of obscure books on Austrian economics.Listen on
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